“Hip-Hop Is Something You Live”—Episode 12 of In Vogue Explores the Connection Between Fashion and Music

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Kate Moss and Sean Combs in Vogue.Photographed by Annie Leibovitz, Vogue, October 1999

“Hip-hop is not something that you listen to, it is something that you live,” says FUBU founder Daymond John. This week’s In Vogue podcast examines how the music and culture that grew out of local New York “jams” went global. It also looks at how, in the words of host Hamish Bowles, “the uniform of that culture soon clothed people around the world.... on the streets, on television, in the movies, and soon, on the runways and in the pages of Vogue.

The story begins in Harlem at Dapper Dan’s always open, always happening boutique. Dan’s approach to fashion was something akin to sampling; mixing the symbols of luxury with streetwear and swagger, to create something new that spoke to his audience. “What I was doing at the time was creating logo mania,” the tailor says. It wasn’t long before wearing a piece by Dapper Dan was a symbol that the wearer had “made it.”

As the music spread, so did rappers’ styles, and the fashion industry wanted in on the look, if not the culture. “We would go out and we would go and buy other designers. And a lot of those designers were taking our money saying we don’t like you. We don’t like hip-hop kids. We don’t like African-Americans,” says John. He responded by creating his own label, FUBU, an acronym for For Us By Us. Karl Kani, April Walker, Carl Johns, and Sean Combs similarly aimed to take ownership of the look, and preserve its authenticity and roots.

Brands like Rocawear, Sean John, Phat Farm, and Baby Phat stood upon the foundations laid by designers like Dapper Dan and Willi Smith. Now, those brands are inspiring a new generation of designers—Pyer Moss’s Kerby Jean-Raymond has collaborated with Cross Colors, for example. Similarly the styles of 1990s hip-hop stars continue to influence fashion. “The distressed denim we see now in every store can be traced back directly to Salt-N-Pepa,” says Bowles. “And you don’t get the athleisure wear we see today without the streetwear of the ’90s. Even Dapper Dan himself is back. Since 2017, the couturier has partnered with Gucci for a new collection based on looks he designed in the ’80s and ’90s.”

Learn more about hip-hop’s influence on fashion and culture on In Vogue: The 1990s. Joining Vogue’s editorial team on this episode are, in order of appearance: Creative director and costume designer June Ambrose; hip-hop artists Sandy “Pepa” Denton and LL Cool J; R&B singer Monica; designer April Walker; hip-hop artists Big Boi, Sir Mix-a-Lot, and Missy Elliott; actor, choreographer, and activist Rosie Perez; FUBU founder Daymond John; hip-hop artist Cheryl “Salt” James; designer Dapper Dan; fashion historian Darnell-Jamal Lisby; Monica Lynch, former president of Tommy Boy Records; fashion historian and author Elena Romero; designer Donatella Versace; R&B singer Kelly Rowland; and stylist Misa Hylton.

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Dapper Dan outside of his eponymous boutique, 1988.Photo: Gene Kappock / NY Daily News via Getty Images
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Queen Latifah at the 1989 MTV Video Music Awards. Photo: Jeff Kravitz / FilmMagic, Inc.
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Roxanne Shante in Dapper Dan, circa 1989. Photo: Michael Ochs Archives / Getty Images
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Salt-N-Pepa, circa 1990. Photo by Mick Hutson / Redferns / Getty Images
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Salt-N-Pepa, circa 1988Photo: Michael Ochs Archives / Getty Images
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Chanel, fall 1991 ready-to-wear

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Chanel, fall 1991 ready-to-wear

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Chanel, fall 1991 ready-to-wear

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Lil’ Kim in Versace at the Met Gala, 1999.Photo: Ron Galella / Ron Galella Collection via Getty Images
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Lil’ Kim at the MTV Video Music Awards, 1999. Photo: Trevor Gillespie
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Missy Elliot, 1998. Photo: Steve Eichner / Getty Images
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Naomi Campbell and Rosie Perez, 1995. Photo: The LIFE Picture Collection via Getty Images
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Tupac Shakur and Rosie Perez at the 1993 Soul Train Awards.Photo: Ron Galella / Ron Galella Collection via Getty Images
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Tupac Shakur in Walker Wear, 1994.Photo: Lawrence Schwartzwald /Sygma via Getty Images
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Daymond John, 1999.Photo: Ron Galella, Ltd. / Ron Galella Collection via Getty Images
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Sir Mix-a-Lot , 1992Photo: Tim Mosenfelder / Getty Images
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LL Cool J, in FUBU, with Tommy Hilfiger,  circa 1990.Photo: The LIFE Picture Collection via Getty Images
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Karl Kani, 1994.Photo: Al Pereira / Getty Images / Michael Ochs Archives
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Destiny’s Child: LeToya Luckett, LaTavia Robertson, Kelly Rowland, and Beyoncé Knowles at the 1999 Soul Train Awards.Photo: Jim Smeal /Ron Galella Collection via Getty Images
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Outkast,  1994.Photo: Pat Johnson / Shutterstock
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The Notorious B.I.G. and Sean Combs, 1997.Photo: Erik Pendzich / Shutterstock
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Sean Combs in Paris with Vogue, 1999. Photographed by Arthur Elgort, Vogue, October 1999

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