Harris Dickinson on Babygirl, Nicole Kidman Meet-Cute, and “Unfiltered” Fan Comments

Harris, we are so excited to have you here.

And it s really...

This movie has been a real

talk of the town in our office.

And starting with people who saw it at Cannes,

and then over the past few months,

it s been sort of trickling in.

So, we feel very hashtag blessed

to be speaking [laughs] about it with you today.

And I also, when we were researching

for talking to you today,

Marley and I were both excited to find out that,

was it Nicole who attributed your first meeting

with her to Anna Wintour?

Yeah, it was at the Met Gala.

So set the scene.

That s a very chic meet cute.

Yeah.

It was two years ago, I think.

So, yeah.

Well, I didn t really know anyone there yet.

And like everyone arrives slowly, slowly, as you know,

and then there s different arrival times, whatever.

And I bumped into Margaret Qualley,

who I know a little bit,

but, I was talking to her.

And then I knew that I was doing the film with Nicole,

and I saw Nicole sat with Keith

over across the way.

And I thought, Well, I probably should say hello,

because we re about to do something together,

but- You d never met,

but you knew you were doing it together.

We d never met, but I d been cast,

and I knew she was doing it.

And I thought, well, I could

sort of pretend I haven t seen her.

[Marley laughing]

As, I often do.

[Harris] As it s sometimes easier.

Absolutely avoid, yes. [laughs]

A little un-see moment. Yeah [chuckles].

You know what I mean?

Just to make things easier.

But I was nervous.

So Margaret saw me looking,

and she was like, Who are you looking at?

I said, Well, Nicole s over there.

And she said, Come on, I ll take you over,

cause I know her.

So she walked me over,

and introduced me and it was fine.

She was lovely, but- Oh that s nice.

How was Keith?

He was lovely, as expected.

[hosts laughing]

Yeah, sang a song, and yeah...

He did not, just to correct.

Sorry, he did not do that.

Yeah. I was very charmed

reading the...

Nicole did a great interview this weekend

in the New York Times,

and saying that she and Keith,

and the kids go to the Rockettes every single year.

[Marley] Huh? What s the Rockettes?

Ugh. Oh boy.

The Rockettes is a really singularly

New York Christmas experience

where- Yes.

About 50 women

in velvet mini dresses- Mm hmm.

With Santa fur piping.

Mm hmm.

Do an enormous can-can.

[Harris] Wow. Dance.

That s most of it.

[host laughs]

Where?

Radio City Music Hall

is what it s called. Yeah.

Oh, fun.

So it s kind of like a classic-

Do you guys go?

I m gonna start taking my kids next year,

but it s definitely not something

I would imagine doing every year.

So I was very charmed by that.

[all laugh]

I have like one sort of experience going there.

My mom gave me cookies.

I have a peanut allergy.

I ate one, I vomited, I left.

I haven t been back. [host laughs]

So like that s- Marley, you can come

with us next year. [Marley laughs]

[host laughs]

That was sort of my experience.

Is it severe?

Eh.

[hosts laughing]

And it was like bad enough to like be a problem then.

It s mostly fine. [host laughs]

[Harris] Oh, no.

It doesn t come up too much.

[host laughing]

I m good- I don t know

why I shared that. I haven t had peanuts here.

It s good to know though.

[Marley laughs]

Someone should have maybe- Yeah.

[Harris] Told me this. Yeah.

[Marley continues to laugh hard]

I ve got a peanut full of pockets.

[hosts laugh]

Pocket full of peanuts. [laughs]

That is something I worry about,

cause they re so strict at school

that anytime I have like...

Yeah. A granola bar on me,

I m panicked.

Or on a plane when they mention it.

Totally, but I mean- And they say,

Hey everyone- Yeah.

I said, Well, I ve already opened my nuts. [laughs]

[hosts laughing]

Classic.

Classic thing to happen,

but also speaking of Nicole,

[host laughs] she and another-

She loves peanuts I think.

[host laughing]

She once told me.

Not allergic.

[Harris] Not allergic. Good to know.

She was always reaching for the cashews on set.

Fun fact. She also seemed

to be quite endeared by your cat.

She said that when you guys were first speaking

on like a Zoom call kind of early in the process.

[Harris] Yeah. She saw your cat

like walk across the background of the Zoom,

and she was like, okay,

this guy s gonna be perfect for Samuel.

Do you know what I m talking about?

If this cat knew that Nicole Kidman knew its name,

it would be even more arrogant than it is.

[hosts laugh]

What s the cat s name?

Misty.

I tried to call him Terry.

Terrance, Terry for short.

Terrence, and my partner didn t wanna go with that,

so Misty ended up being his name.

But he s very sweet.

He s a good lad.

[Marley chuckles]

He s cultured.

Have you ever seen that thing of Willem Defoe talking?

He s like, He loves classical music.

He s into ballet, and it s like me talking about my cat.

[hosts laughing]

Like what s his favorite go-to activity for a channel?

What s his taste? Misty loves Wagner.

Misty loves Wagner.

He s into the arts, you know?

[hosts laugh]

Your Dafoe s not bad.

I have to say. [laughs]

[Harris laughs]

No, I was doing a Zoom,

and whenever I do Zooms,

you can t control him

and he just potters around in the foreground

or the background and assaults me.

[hosts laugh]

He s really violent.

I ve got scars all over my hands from him.

But, you know, we come back to them.

We love him.

Yeah, no, she s an animal person as well.

So I think that was

maybe what she meant.

She s got dogs and stuff, so.

I did think that it s one of the more

dramatic first reveals of a character

I think I ve seen in a while.

Was you taming

the dog. The dog, yeah.

Are you

a dog healer? I ve got

a pocket full of sausages.

Well, exactly.

Speaking of a pocket full of peanuts.

Yeah.

Yeah, that dog was tricky.

Amazing dog but it was designed... [laughs]

Not designed. [host laughs]

It was trained to like...

Often these dogs in film and TV, they re trained to like

I guess like safely attack and stuff.

So he had so much energy.

Aw. And so it was really hard

getting the dog to like just be calm.

And there was times where

I like was just feeding it sausage after sausage

to try and like calm it down. [Marley chuckles]

But it was a lovely dog, and then there was a scene

in the street where Nicole gets...

You know, the dog jumps

onto Nicole or the dog runs towards her.

And I just looked over at Nicole,

and Nicole [laughs] was just laying

in the middle of the street

[host laughs] in the middle of Manhattan

and everyone was walking past. Oh my God.

[host laughs hard]

They re like, What is going on?

I mean, you know, she s on a mat,

but I m like, what are we doing as a job?

Like what is happening?

She s also talked about how

she likes being on the floor.

Do you like being on the floor?

I don t mind being on the floor.

[Marley] Okay. I don t mind it.

Yeah, why not?

Do you?

Honestly, yes. Yeah.

I love to be on the floor of a conference room.

What do you like about it?

Man, well, I do like to recline.

[all laugh]

You can t recline on the floor.

I do like to like being asleep

and maybe there s some kind of creative energy.

You re grounded,

quite literally. Yeah.

You know what I mean?

You like...

No, it s just humbling, isn t it?

It s sort of like back-

Like I m very small.

[Harris] Are you?

And the world s all around me, you know what I mean?

When you re on the floor.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Laying on the floor at an airport is interesting.

Sort of just, you know, like...

Well, it s often the only option.

It s the only option yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, but there s something quite safe about it as well.

I wanna know what Halina

told you about her vision for Samuel,

because I have to say this morning I listened

to your interview with Andrew Garfield,

which was very charming, but also helpful

to hear about your vision for Samuel

and not having it fit into different tropes

or cliches of what this could have been.

When you first got the call describing

who this character was, cause it came out of her mind,

what was the most important thing

for her in describing Samuel to you?

I think she spoke, if I remember quite a lot about

his struggle with his own identity and masculinity.

The idea that there was this young guy coming up against

a version of himself that he was still grappling

to understand, I think, which is, you know,

important in today s climate where

like young people, you know,

young men, but young people as well are just...

Anyone is so easily strayed, influenced,

and potentially controlled by the internet

and pop culture and film, whatever.

And that s confusing, there s different narratives

and confusing ideals that we come up against.

So I think that was something

that was very important for him.

And also his directness was always in the script.

His like honesty with Romy, Nicole s character,

because you re seeing this character

in the first part of the film in Romy, Nicole s character,

that she s a high powered CEO,

she s holding it together with a sort of

control, great control.

And there s everyone around her

is revering her, respecting her.

And Samuel comes in and he just pokes through it

and sees what happens.

And he watches her, studies her,

and then he dares to challenge her.

And once he challenges her,

he understands that it s ultimately what,

you know, interests her.

It turns her on.

It kind of makes her tick.

And so, that was a big part of it.

Like, okay, I ve gotta go in

and make Samuel this person that is unafraid

of ruffling feathers.

You know? Yeah.

He kind of goes against like

the social norms or the social interaction norms

of day-to-day conversing.

He kind of ignores those.

So that was a big part of him.

And yet it s not like he s sort

of like this swaggering like He-Man.

Like there s like- No, no.

A politeness to him.

There s a kind of halting quality to the way that he s

like sort of confident and strident.

So like a very interesting sort of line that you re walking

between being like respectful,

acknowledging that like what he s doing

is like not quite okay. Yeah.

But then also kind of going forward anyway.

Yeah.

Like was that something that sort

of developed just sort of as you were working

that sort of...

Well I think

it was obvious that we couldn t just have this guy

that was like uber cool and uber like dominating.

It s kind of been done and it s a little uninteresting.

It s a little more unrelatable.

So... Yeah.

I think it was like, okay,

you ve got intern in an office environment,

he s gonna be self-aware to some degree.

So yeah, we just tried to play with that.

And also a big thing Halina spoke about,

which is clear when you watch the film,

and I think that s some of the best parts of it,

is when you see the awkwardness

of what s sex and relationships,

and even just normal interaction,

can be with like two people fumbling their way through

like roles- Yeah.

That we play.

So I really was interested in that.

And I think that when you watch it,

you see those moments of embarrassment

that are kind of real, you know? [chuckles]

Yeah. Because it is

a little embarrassing to do those things.

And we were able to lean into it and laugh

and you kind of see us like coming in

and out of the performative element of, you know, that.

The father figure scene.

Like that dance scene, was that on the page?

[Harris] Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. And was that choreographed?

No. [laughs] Okay.

No, no.

[Marley] I was like I know they were moving.

Oh, you thought it looked choreographed?

I mean, not no. [host laughs]

Big jazz hand number.

Now I ve looked back, I should have done a big...

Like Busby Berkeley?

Yeah. [snaps fingers]

[Harris hums old-timey song]

I was like, there s something going on here.

It s making me move.

No.

I got sent the song a long time before

and it kind of said in the script,

I can t remember what it said,

but, you know, he moved

through the space and then Romy was sat down

and I thought, God, well this is like...

This can t be like a lap dance.

You know, that s really embarrassing.

I can t.

So I thought this has kind of gotta be for himself,

but also for her.

And,

yeah.

I may have had a few drinks for that.

[chuckles] It seems like that ll come in handy.

[Harris] Yeah.

That s very vibey. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I was speaking about this earlier,

but like more embarrassing because of the crew.

Like, you spent so long with these people

that you see every day and it s like,

Hey, how you doing?

How s your weekend?

Like what are you having for dinner?

You know, like very normal, like banal chat

and then it s like the boom ops and the grips

and it s like all of a sudden you ve got your top off

and you re like driving around,

you know, you re like, oh god.

You catch eye contact with them

and you re like, Sorry about that.

You know, it s like, oh God.

Yeah.

I do feel like people are talking about this movie

as sort of bringing back sexy scenes

in a way that we haven t seen for a while

because there was sort of a post #MeToo fear

of having sexy movies.

And people seem thrilled for the return

of a quite emotional...

I mean, it s not...

I thought it was interesting that you said

that it s a bit diminutive to call it an erotic thriller.

It s both erotic and a thriller, but it s not just that.

No. And it is very emotional

and you see such arcs of both characters.

But I wonder

what it s been like navigating responses

from people about this.

I thought it was interesting that Nicole said she feels like

a sex therapist because people

just keep spilling their souls to her

in response to

seeing the movie. Yeah.

Is your family seeing this over Christmas?

Like what...

My family saw it, my mom s very open minded.

My mom saw it in London.

She loved it.

She said she wore a turtleneck

in case she needed to cover her eyes.

[hosts laugh]

That s very thoughtful.

Great, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah. Bless her.

So she loved it though.

She was like, Oh no, absolutely brilliant, yeah.

She was really fond of it.

And the same with my sister.

Yeah, but, you know,

people s responses have been interesting.

I think it s been a real range

of like thought provoking

to filthy to be honest with you.

[hosts laugh]

Like people are unafraid

to say exactly what they think,

particularly when they ve just seen it.

Like we ve been doing these screenings

and, you know,

like 80-year-old women have been saying some

very funny stuff to me.

Give us an example.

I mean, can I be explicit or what?

No, please. Yeah.

I mean, it s not that explicit,

but she came out and one of them

she grabbed me and straight away she said,

Well, I can t wait to get home

and use that vibrator.

[hosts laugh hard]

[Harris chuckles]

You re liberating woman.

I said, Oh, well, yeah, yeah, go and do that.

That s good, yeah,

and then another one said to me,

Well honey, I ve got no one to sleep with tonight,

and she tickled me and I thought, well, you know,

there s a room full of people,

go and mingle. The night is young.

The night is young, yeah.

Just maybe look elsewhere.

[laughs] Oh my God. Yeah.

Go straight to the source.

That s crazy.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So, If the shoe was on the other foot, is all I ll say.

No, I mean, it s interesting.

It s definitely igniting

liberation in people, which is good.

You know, at the end of the day

there s a positive conversation being sparked

and dialogue around it is positive.

So we like it, yeah.

You have worked with so many fantastic directors

and I wonder if different directors are

like different parental figures.

You learn different things from each person.

Is it harder to become trusting with different people?

Is that process different?

I just think about this film particularly as so intimate,

and having to be so vulnerable.

Was that quick with Halina?

what s that relationship like? [laughs]

Sorry, I realized I just asked about seven questions.

[Harris] No, no. [laughs]

Relationship with director.

[hosts laugh]

Go.

Yeah.

[Harris makes flapping noise with his mouth]

No, I think it changes.

I always have a process

of figuring out trust with something.

It s, you know, it s normal, isn t it?

Like building trust with someone,

but with directors, you kind of have to do it

and you have to do it quick.

Otherwise your performance suffers, I think.

Because if you re scared of stuff,

if you re worrying about how you re gonna be, you know,

looked after, at the end of the day,

you just want to be looked after in the right way

and step into like safe hands.

And, you know, I ve been lucky.

All of the people I ve been lucky enough to work with,

you know, Sean Durkin, Eliza Hittman,

you know, Ruben Ostlund, and Joanna Hogg.

I ve just been really fortunate with these incredible autres

where you know already what the type of cinema is.

So that s one thing that s like,

okay, I m trusting that.

And then once you ve had a chance to...

It s counterintuitive to not have trust with an actor.

If a director ever...

You know, you hear about these directors

that either bark orders and manipulate people

and work from a place

of antagonizing rather than collaboration,

then I dunno how people ever do good stuff.

But it s always a process and it always takes me a minute.

I feel like I m probably not the easiest person to like,

well, you know, don t just give it straight away.

Does Halina do anything...

I just imagine sort of day one of a movie like this,

was there any sort of trust exercise to begin with?

Or some sort of way

that- Trust falls? [laughs]

[hosts laugh]

Where you got to know each other,

like you Nicole and Halina type of thing?

And like her being an actor,

did that change the dynamic? 100%.

Yeah, I ll answer the exercise thing first.

We didn t do a lot of that.

We had a small...

We had that one day rehearsal,

and it was just a very brief period where Nicole, Halina,

and I sat down and spoke and looked through all the scenes.

We were lucky in the sense

that me and Nicole bonded really quickly.

We felt very comfortable

with each other very, very soon.

So that was like a tick off the list

and then I think

we just got into it and we just did it.

But Halina, yeah, as an actor, I think

it changes what you expect from yourself

because she s there, like, even with a crew,

she s like showing us what she imagines it to be,

and she s like throwing herself around

the floor, like, you know?

No shame, just showing us exactly

what she thinks might be an interesting choreography

and I think everyone kind of got on board with that,

with that like full-in mentality.

And even even the crew were just like,

Okay, this is someone who we should get behind

and like go full speed with.

And same with Nicole.

Nicole has got this mad like playfulness as a performer.

She s so bold with stuff

and she just isn t, you know...

She s not scared to try stuff

and then you think, oh, I can try stuff as well.

So.

What s an example of something that she tried

that made you feel like you could be free

to do something kooky or goofy?

Okay, the rave, for example.

The Rave, she s there.

Like, I mean, a lot of that was scripted,

but at the rave she just threw herself into it

and she was like grabbing people and kissing them and stuff.

I was like, well, that s doesn t mean I can do that.

But, you know, she was...

[all laugh]

I m not saying this,

but yeah, I mean, there was so many times

where she would just like throw it out there

and then you re like, okay, well, you know?

And then it sets the kind of tone

for the film and for the scene as well.

And there s scenes like for example, the cheap motel.

It s like seven page scenes, you know?

So we re having to navigate between so many different tones

and, you know, on the floor and wrestling

and it s just bonkers.

Wow. Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, you ve now been, you know,

you ve built up quite a body of work.

I think your breakout was what sort of seven,

eight years ago with Eliza Hittman s Beach Rats.

What was your kind of life like?

I know that you self-taped for that role.

What was your life like at that moment?

I know you were doing sort of odd jobs,

what was sort of on your mind

as you were kind of preparing

to put yourself out there in that way?

Kind of what did you, I don t know,

want from a career at that point?

What was sort of the vibe?

I like to think, you know, I love the idea of me going,

yeah, I knew exactly what kind of things I wanted to do,

but the truth is, I just wanted to work.

I just wanted to do anything.

You know, I was working a hotel, I d done some theater,

and I d done some like smaller, like, unpaid stuff.

And the irony of that situation is,

is that I spent six, seven weeks

in LA doing like pilot season.

And I saved up from my hotel job and I went to pilot season

and I didn t get a thing.

And I auditioned every day, which is fine.

It s very normal.

I auditioned every day and didn t get anything.

Seven weeks went by, I went back to the hotel,

I saved up for another seven, eight months,

and I went back and did it again

and again, didn t get anything.

Got close to a few things, went home.

Begged for my job back at the hotel.

And then I got a self tape

through in my home in East London

and did it in my like childhood bedroom.

And it ended up being like

the thing that ultimately kind of launched my career,

you know, it won Sundance

and people were so kind about that

and my involvement in it just almost,

you know, enabled me to keep on working.

But yeah, I just really wanted to work.

I just wanted to do stuff

and learn, you know, I hadn t been to drama school,

so for me, being on set

was like my education in some way as well, so.

Have you ever been an intern?

[Harris laughs]

Yeah.

Well, I ve been a runner a lot.

I used to be a runner on music videos

and so I was a runner,

and one of the most memorable ones.

I was a runner at Notting Hill Carnival

for a rapper. Oh wow.

Yeah, that was crazy.

Like running around with this rapper

and like a really small crew.

And then for the- When was that?

That was maybe 10 years ago.

I was like 16, 17. Oh goodness.

Yeah, and that was carnage.

But I also tried to...

I think I was here

in this building doing something for Iron Claw

with Zach and Jeremy,

and at the time I was preparing for Baby Girl,

and I d never worked in an office.

I don t know...

I didn t know that environment very well.

So I got lost and just putted around for a bit

and was bothering people

in the office. Oh my God.

[Harris] Yeah, ad asking questions

and stuff. To like,

find out what it was like to like, push papers.

That d be a great TikTok.

A corporate journal.

It s such an actor thing to do.

Yeah, so I took six months off

and worked in an office, yeah.

It s like, okay, well done.

You went to a mail room. With staplers.

Made a cup of tea.

No, but I just wanted to understand the office environment.

I d never been.

I d only done retail, hospitality, other stuff.

I was not an office boy, so.

What did you learn being here?

[chuckle] God! So many things.

Pray tell.

A wealth of knowledge

I ll take with me. Well like I ve learned

nothing at all.

[all laugh]

I am interested...

I mean, we ve just been talking about your first role,

but I do feel like it s...

And it was interesting to hear you

and Andrew Garfield talk about this,

and he s a bit older than you,

the transition to being a public persona

and how to navigate that.

And I thought it was so thoughtful that he said

that he tries to really give himself,

but also retain some of himself,

and to only give sort of bite-sized chunks to people.

And I wonder what that experience has been like for you.

Have there been any moments

where you ve regretted talking about things

or where you wish you would say more about things?

I don t know.

Yeah, it s something I m sort

of continuously coming to terms with.

I think like the idea of sharing stuff is always

a weird dilemma because I am quite an open book,

but I have to, I guess, think in double time

and think about what is appropriate to share

with the world and what is something I m like comfortable

being out there indefinitely.

But ultimately I think like, you know,

there s so much noise and stuff being shared.

I think like you can overthink about stuff

and think, oh God, I shouldn t have said this or that.

But ultimately, as long as you are always trying

to think about it, as long as you are like,

your heart s in the right place

and your morals are in the right place,

and you re educating yourself on stuff

and like making sure, you know,

you re being true to yourself, then I think,

well you could ultimately be okay.

But it s interesting with film and stuff,

because you tend to like, even with Beach Rats,

like you get asked about stuff

that is ultimately above your pay grade sometimes.

You know what I mean?

Like I was at the time,

you know, 21, 20 when that film was coming out

and I was kind of expected to talk on certain issues

or be an advocate for

like the LGBTQ-plus community.

And I m like, you know, a straight white guy

and I m like, I m happy to support this,

get behind it and- Yeah.

Push the conversation.

But I m unqualified

for certain things. Yeah.

And that s okay.

So I think it s just, you know,

knowing when to be like, I don t know, you know,

I m not okay to speak on that or...

Yeah.

But the public stuff is interesting.

Like people coming up

to me like in the streets and stuff

is always a new thing.

Something I always get a bit shocked why, you know?

You think someone s gonna like hit you or something

and then they re like, Oh, I saw this thing, so.

I loved you in Iron Claw.

Yeah, yeah.

Someone came up to me in a restaurant.

In New York, actually someone did the claw to me.

Someone put- Oh my God.

Oh my God, that s terrifying.

Yeah.

He was like, Wait, and I was eating a ramen.

Trying to swallow it, you know?

So, yeah.

We have a dear British colleague

who writes about music a lot for us,

and he reminded us before this interview

that he recently wrote a wonderful piece about your partner

and that you had directed one of her videos.

And I wonder if there s any overlap.

And he was like, They are the most important British couple

for me right now and for all of young England.

I was like, okay.

That s very sweet. I love that for Liam.

That s Liam. Yes.

But I wonder, do you sort of have rules

with each other if we re not talking about this,

but we re both public facing,

I m directing your music video,

so we are working together,

but we are gonna keep certain parts

of our work lives separate?

Well, I think it s nice

because we re in different industries, you know?

She s a musician

and there s rarely overlap.

I mean, the music video stuff is something we ve been

doing for a while.

And then I guess it, it became...

It was just an extension

of stuff we d already done together.

But it s nice that our worlds are different.

I always get very starstruck by musicians.

I m always like meeting musicians

and being, you know...

We went to Confidence Man the other day

where I met Caroline Polachek

and I always feel like, or like Charli XCX, you know?

I m always so like fascinated by what they do

and I m so impressed by what my partner does.

Like, it s a hard world,

but I don t know, I think there s certain things you have

to keep sacred, you know?

You have to keep stuff

between us just to keep it special, you know?

I understand.

What do you listen to?

Like, what s your taste in music?

It s cliche, everything.

I don t know.

What s the last song you listened to?

What was on your Spotify wrapped?

Oh yeah.

What was your top artist? Should I tell you?

Yes, oh yeah. Should I pull it out?

Rather than trying- Absolutely.

But embarrassingly Father Figure was on there

because- It s a great song.

I listen to it a lot.

It s a great song.

No shame.

May George Michael rest.

Your top song s 2024.

Missing, Todd Terry,

Everything But The Girl.

You know that one?

[Host] Nope.

Am I allowed to play it?

Sorry. Yeah.

You know this one? Okay.

[Marley laughs]

You get it? Yeah.

You get it. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah yeah.

[Harris laughs]

Some of these are embarrassing.

What makes something embarrassing?

Is it like basic?

Crush, Jennifer Page.

I don t know, sega bodega.

James Blake. - I ve never heard

any of these words before

in my life. No?

Gang Starr.

These seem cool to me.

Gunna,

I like a bit of rap. Oh, Gunna, okay.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I like rap, yeah. Great.

Yeah. These are mine.

Classical.

Ludwig Göransso.

There you go. Literally my top artist

was Bach and I m

like- Bach, yeah.

That makes me seem more interesting than I am.

[Harris] Yeah. Or worse,

I dunno. No, no, no.

[Marley] Unclear.

As long as you don t lead with that.

Because it might seem a bit like...

Imagine if you asked me

and without a beat I said Bach.

Bach. Yeah.

I mean mine was Moana, so...

[Harris] Was it?

Moana, yeah.

For the little ones?

That s right and then for myself.

[Harris] Yes, yes.

Harris, I wanna talk about Prada and other things.

Obviously we re a fashion podcast.

I wanna know, is it a chore to dress for a press tour

or is there sort of fun in it?

We ve been talking a lot at Vogue about

how everyone is method dressing these days.

They re sort of dressing- Theme dressing?

Theme dressing for their press tour.

Yeah. Yeah.

Getting into character. Any thoughts

about Samuel when you re getting dressed

for these screenings? You guys into

the theme dressing?

Really depends.

[Harris] Reading between

the lines. Yeah, it really does depend.

It can go very wrong, very fast.

[Harris] Yes.

And it seems like it goes on for quite a long time.

Yeah. Yes, yes.

Well luckily me and my stylist, Ben Scofield,

the lovely Ben.

We ve not done that so much

because Samuel he s wearing sort

of regular normal baggy suits.

So I don t think we need to.

We love his chain.

His chain s nice.

His chain s nice. We do love the chain.

And his little...

Did you notice this little clipper thing?

His little carabin that he...

Yeah. With his keys.

Dressing for press tours is not a chore.

It s fun.

I mean, like, when you ve got help, it s really fun.

I can t imagine having to do it on my own.

I d be a mess,

but no, I love it.

And then of course, like...

What are you wearing today?

Today?

This wasn t actually a look.

[hosts laugh] I changed it because

I was a bit uncomfortable. [chuckles]

So, I mean whatever.

It s fine.

I m wearing Prada shoes, nice trousers,

and then an Andy Thê-Anh top

because I just wanted to...

High and low.

I wanted to just feel more like myself

and sometimes when I dress very smart,

I don t feel like myself.

So, you know what I mean? Yeah.

No, no, no, this is good.

And we re flying after,

so boom, boom, boom.

[Marley] Where are you off to?

Going back to London.

[Marley] Oh good. Oh wow.

Are you done?

[Marley] Yeah. Oh my God, fab.

Fab. Yeah.

[hosts laugh] Fabby, fabby, fabby.

We re gonna let you go, but I just wanna know

what the Christmas plan is.

Yeah.

I m gonna get back in touch with cooking.

I lost that a little bit this year

cause I was busy,

so I really just wanna like

make some nice food.

What s the recipe?

The holiday recipe?

Well, there s a lovely ragu

that I wanted to try again.

Like a short rib ragu- Oh.

That I did recently.

That was, well I say recently,

last year is the last time I did it.

And it was just like,

yeah, chef s kiss. [Marley laughs]

And then luckily I don t have

to do the cooking at my family s.

I ve got a big family

that will do it for me.

So that s nice. Incredible.

Yeah, I can just rock up

with the booze and yeah.

Harris, thank you so much. Wow,

what a delight.

Thank you. I hope that your ragu

is everything... And more.

[Host] You dream it to be.

[all laugh] Thank you, guys.